The top 10 Questions we get

Come on a ride with us through the top 10 questions we get. Here are the questions in order, please comment below with your answers. 

(1) What's your favorite type of thriller and least favorite ? (1:00-10:00)
(2) What thriller would you recommend to someone just getting into genre (10:20-11:50)
(3) What thriller would you recommend for thriller lovers (11:50-13:30)
(4) What thriller do you recommend to people who get scared easily? (13:30-15:00)
(5) What are the scariest thrillers you have read (15:00-18:00)
(6) What non-thriller do you think everyone should read (18:20-20:20)
(7) What thrillers are unknown and underrated (20:20-22:30)
(8) Authors you'll never skip (22:30-25:00)
(9) Current Controversies (25:00-31:00)
(10) What else do you need to say about reading? (31:30-end)

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Transcript

10 questions

 Hi, I'm Emily. I'm Ashley, and this is books with your besties. Hi, Ashley. Hi. Um, we are back. And today we're talking about all things books. Mostly thriller books, but also other books, right? Yeah, I think so. We get a lot of questions from followers, listeners. So I think these are our most frequently asked questions. See. It's exciting to talk about them. This will be fun. So we'll read a question and then we'll both answer it. Perfect. Okay. Question one You. what are your favorite thriller tropes or types of thrillers and your least favorite? I almost want to pause and say listeners and followers who've been around for a long time, comment right now what Emily's is because it's very, very obvious to anyone who's been around. So you answer first. No one's going to know. But here's what it is. Anytime there is a locked door mystery in the snow, if you are going to a snowy location and the Wi-Fi is out and the roads are closed and the it snowed 12ft and and you have no other way of of connecting with anyone and cell services down and and plus your cell phones got stolen. That's my favorite. Our listeners know this and our social media followers any, even if it's not a good book, if the cover shows a cabin in the snow, you're going to buy it. I own it, yeah, actually, I just saw a real that had suggestions for winter books and there were like 3 or 4 I hadn't read, and I was like, I really need to look into making sure that I'm not missing these because that's not okay. Inappropriate, inappropriate. So I got to go. I've got to go. I've shopping to do. All right. Podcast over. Emily has to go buy her snow snowy books. What? What do you like, Ashley? I'm worried that when I first say this out loud, people are going to be concerned for my mental health and well-being. But I have really realized I love thrillers where you don't know if a kid is problematic or not like a child. Ooh, creepy kid stuff. Yeah, and sometimes the kids end up being creepy and sometimes they don't. But I love not not knowing. I like some of those, too. Like the push. Oh, I could talk about that for days. The Perfect Child by Lucinda Berry. Absolutely. Yeah. Those kid books are good. The new house. Yeah. Oh my gosh, we could keep naming them. There are so many that are so good. The questions. Yeah. The other the other book that I am a complete sucker for is a book where someone is being held captive in one way or another, like in somebody's basement or in a bedroom, and you don't know who has them or why. I love those two. I like stalker books, kidnapping books. That's what's wrong with us. But this is why we started our book club and podcast to convince ourselves that this is normal. Oh well, I think the podcast has convinced me we're not normal, but okay. I also really love domestic thrillers. I don't know what it is. I know, I know, you do. Part of me, I love them too. Just let's put that out there. And part of me thinks I like them because we know that some of them are happening all around us, in our suburban neighborhoods, in our schools. We know that these are people we know. I agree, I, I walk down my street and all the streets around me and I'm like, who has their wife, like held captive essentially in their home? And then I'm also like, who has a body in the basement? I don't think I don't think we have the right brains. Again, we should just end this now before we're canceled. Before our neighbors here is talking about them. Okay? I love, love my neighbors too, but I just it's like walking around. You're like, that house looks creepy. I bet there's something going on there. Truth be told, we are probably the ones that people are worried about. Like, I wonder in my neighborhood what people know me as. They're probably like that weird lady that walks her dog and and runs all the time. Well, they probably also know so much about you from your social media. True true story. So they're like, there's the liberal lady who yells about her kids and me. They they don't know any of that. They do know that I have a weird, creepy book business, but, you know, I'm just a lady next door. It's just the it's got all the secrets. Well, okay, so we know what you like. What do you not like? I am not really into cults, so if it's a cult book, I'm sort of a on that. What about you? Aren't we trying to make a cult? Isn't that what our book club is? Yeah. We're going to lead them into reading every thriller book and coming on and coming on retreats with us. Yeah, hanging out and eating good food. That's our plan. You know what I don't like? And we could also lose followers for saying this. I don't like paranormal stuff. I can't I can't get behind it. I'm similar. Ghosty books. Not really for me. Once in a while, there's a. That's why an exception is fun. But that's the same with a lot of genres, right? You and I don't like specific things, but then they'll be like a one off that we do like. Yeah. Oh, the other one I really do like. And I have to say this because I know other people will agree. I love a good detective mystery. I love a detective mystery. Me too. They're so smart and I feel like we don't read enough of them. I know sometimes, though, they have books in a series, but we could just read one. We could try. Maybe we should do that. Um, know something that we both don't like, and that is gore and horror. No, this is the psychological thriller book club, not the horror gore. I don't like it. Yeah, it's it's no longer creepy when you're tearing someone's fingernails off. It's just horrifying. But this would be called the horrifying Book club if we liked that. Okay, the insomnia book club, I was. I started some book. I remember I started some book and I called you after chapter one, and I was like, I don't know if I can handle this book. And you were like, no, stop immediately. That book is not for you. And I was like, oh, thank, thank you. Thank you for saving me before I got very upset by something. We have to protect ourselves from ourselves. Okay. I have one more thing and it's going to make me unpopular, but it's probably because I'm a psychologist. I cannot stand my least favorite thing. And I will tell you, I talked with Doctor Lucinda Berry about this before, and she feels the same way as me. So I know it's a psychologist thing, but I cannot stand when a book has dissociative identity disorder or dissociation as its explanation. I cannot handle it. That's my thing. Here's why, though. Dissociative identity disorder, formerly known as multiple personality disorder, is the rarest of all disorders you could possibly imagine, probably in psychology. And in fact, it's it's controversial. There are many psychologists who question its veracity like is does it even exist? And if it does exist, it's in exceedingly rare, unique cases and maybe not full dissociation. It's just one of those things that's been popularized by movies and social media, because it's kind of flashy and exciting. So a book that has that as an explanation feels like a cop out, and b just dumb to me like, that's no, that didn't happen. And so I hate it, I hate it, I'm like, oh, there was the easy, low hanging fruit. It's kind of like if you kill off a character because they're problematic and a TV series because you don't know how else to resolve it. It just feels to me like there was no better way to resolve this, or for you to find a twist. So you're like, what's the weird, you know, movie split and dissociative identities. Let's put a multiple personality thing in what it's like the paranormal thing where you're like, oh, that's the answer. No, not not a good book. If that's the answer. I know I have read a book once that I really loved, and it ended with a paranormal explanation, and I really still could appreciate that. I enjoyed the journey, the story well, and without giving anything away. The book we read last month, right, had an explanation that, had a bit of psychology behind it. Am I saying that right, like it had. Yeah, there was some psychological stuff in one of our recent book of the months. Yeah, and it was a good book. It seemed like it was done. Well. Yes. I was still entertained. I would say it's an exception to that. I enjoyed it still. Yeah. Despite some of the things being things I wouldn't normally love. And I actually partway through that book was like, please don't be this. And the other thing we both like is multiple points of view, unless we have to make a flowchart of like 12 people. I know, you know, what I really wish authors would do is that the top of the page would say the name of the chapter. So it always says the name of the book, but I wish it would say the name of the book on one side, and then on the other side. It would be like chapter seven. Jennifer 1982. So you could be like, oh yeah, okay, that's who I'm reading, because there are times where I'm like, I have to flip back and be like, who's this though? Yes, absolutely. And you know, I don't pay attention in the first place. So I have to really make myself focus when it comes to multiple points of view. But I love it. I'm a sucker for it. I know I love it too, especially when it all comes together. So interestingly, I love I mean, the brain of thriller authors is remarkable. Apparently this is going to be a three hour episode. Question one took us 14 minutes I know, apologies. Okay. Number two, what thriller would you recommend to someone just getting into the genre? You want me to go first? Yeah. Okay. I'm going to see if you agree with me. I said a book that I also think is very underrated and under read. And that's the guest House by Robin Morgan Bentley. That's an excellent choice. It's. It has enough twists and turns to be totally entertained. It's a very, very smart book and it's written incredibly well. But it's not. You can sleep. It's not scary. It's more of a, well, psychological thriller and less of a scary book. Okay, now I'm second guessing my choice because I think yours is better. But you tell me what you think I said because and I do recommend this to everybody. I said, none of this is true by Lisa Jewell and and here's why. Her writing is really brilliant. So the story and the character development are really meaningful. So for people who haven't read a lot of thrillers, they still have that background story. And I didn't think it was scary. I thought it was more sad, almost, but I get that it's kind of dark. I think the problem with starting with that book, which I. I agree, everyone has to read it, but you're probably going to be let down by like the next five books you read, because it's that good. I mean, it's really in my top five thrillers of all time. Like I think it's so good. So maybe I'm just biased. No, I mean, you can't go wrong with Lisa Jewell. And that one in particular is outstanding. Okay. Next question three what thriller would you recommend for thriller lovers? I'm going to throw this way back. And you, I bet if I gave you like 20 guesses, you would never guess what I'm going to say. But I think if someone loves thrillers and they haven't read this, this book will blow their minds. And that is sharp objects. I was going to guess dark places. Oh, I mean, kind of same difference, which I love. Dark places too, but sharp objects. Okay. Very good. Yeah, that book is outstanding. That book is absolutely outstanding, I think. And then the mini series was just as good as anything Gillian Flynn or Gillian Flynn. Yeah, I don't, I don't remember, but also why hasn't why hasn't she written a book in a long time? I don't know, but she, she's like, here, let me put some incredible stuff out and then I'm going to go chill out. Good for her. Okay. Here's what I said because I just feel like it doesn't get enough hype. It's super twisty. It is spooky season theme. So it's like Halloween theme and that's Look Closer by David Ellis okay, I, I think it's a great book for thriller lovers. Thriller lovers are going to find things in it that are still exciting. I want to say someone on our group page or on Instagram. Someone somewhere also just recommended this book and said, if you're looking for something right now, this is what you should be reading. I feel like I don't know why it's not recommended more, so go look that one up to everyone who has not read it and who likes thriller books. Look Closer by David Ellis. Okay. Okay. Number four, what thriller do you recommend to people who get scared too easily? You go first because what if we have the same one? Okay, I said, everyone here is lying by Sheri La Pena. I love that book and it's fun. I thought it was fun. I was not scared at all. And I don't think there's anything scary about it holistically. That's not true. Everything we read is messed up. Okay, but, you know, layers. Someone's going to buy it and read it and be like, those ladies are mentally unwell. Yeah. If you don't like thrillers, go get out of here. This episode's not for you. Uh. This one. I just finished it. It's our book of the month. But I said the last one at the wedding because it's by the same author is hidden picture Jason McCulloch. Yes. It's not scary, but it is. So it's so messed up. It's just I can't wait. Don't tell me anything else. No spoilers, but it's like I read it in two sittings. It's like family dynamics, family relationships. And you really think somebody is like the bad guy and they are not. It just takes you on this completely wild ride, literally until the last three pages. Fun. I can't wait to keep reading it, but I've been a little distracted with just lots of things to do, so I'm excited to just get some time to sit down and read. Yeah, well, I once you start reading it, you're not going to be able to stop. Woo hoo! Okay. Number five, what are the scariest thrillers you have read? I picked three to talk about. What do you have? I have two, one maybe we have the same. Do you have a Riley Sager one? No. Oh. I had, home before dark. Right. That's somewhere the snakes come out of the ceiling. That's how I knew you would have that one. Because you're scared of snakes. But for some reason, I was like, it's okay. Uh, and then I had one which I know you could not finish because we don't like horror and we don't like gore. But I love the podcast morbid, and it was a well written book, but butcher and the rest, that book was terrifying by Alena Urquhart. Absolutely. I could not sleep. I could not anyway, I didn't read the sequel because I'm too scared. But it was a good book if you can handle it. Okay, that is one that I do remember being like, I can't read this because it was too, too much for me a little bit. Okay, here's what I put. It might have been the one I yelled at you about. I said, appetite for innocence. Yeah, uh, by Lucinda Berry, which I loved so much. It's also on the top of my thrillers list, and I think all thriller lovers should read it. And if you are just getting into the thriller genre, you should put it on your list to read as your 60th thriller book, right? Book a therapy session for two days after you finish it. It is not for the faint of heart, but what what was scary about it was just the premise more than anything. The thought about that, um, okay, you know, the new house really scared me. We have a whole episode on that one so people can go listen to that. The new House by Tess Stimpson scared me so much thinking about. I don't want to give any spoilers, so go listen to the episode. Okay? And then this is the one that I probably thought about the most, and it's Leave the World Behind by Ruben Allam. And I read this before it became a Netflix movie, which it's a great movie on Netflix too, but it's a apocalyptic thriller, so you don't know what's going on in the book if like, who's safe and what's going to happen, but also something's happening in the world and it is more realistic than my brain could handle. And I was absolutely terrified. I was absolutely terrified about the reality of like, this could happen. So there you go. And the constant give and take in that book of really not knowing if the people in the house are even good and trying to. I was stressed the entire time. Um, one other one I want to make sure I mention is the Butterfly Garden. You haven't read that right? No. Oh my God, that is. I don't know if you should. I'm scared anything away by saying it's like girls being held captive by one of the most disturbing humans you could ever write in a book. I kind of want to, but I'm also scared. I don't know, I don't, you know, not for me. Okay. Thank you. I'll trust you. So many good books to read. Maybe I'll just skip one that you say. Do not read it. I'm only because you're too weak. Um, okay. I love this because we're going to take a bit of a deviation. Number six. What non thriller do you think everyone should read. You go first because I bet we're going to have 1 or 2 that are the same. I have two I just put one. I think everyone should read American Dirt by Jeanine Cummins. It is about a family trying to get to American dirt from Mexico, and they are wanting to illegally cross the border. And it's just it's heart wrenching. It is hopeful. It is everything. And I think it's just really important to understand those kinds of stories. I'm actually going to say three, and you're going to probably know one of them for sure. I'm going to say Nightingale or by Kristin Hannah, or basically any book by Kristin Hannah. I know as you and I have said, she, she does not write uplifting. She does not write their historical fiction. And the books are real. So you feel like you are getting a lesson in the Holocaust or the Dust Bowl while also sobbing for these stories of families just trying to survive. And I just love I, I love how much research she puts into it so that it's like a refresher on historical pieces of of times. And I like that. And I also put Kite Runner, oh, by Khalid Hosseini and The Red tent. Oh, yeah? Who wrote the Red tent? I'm not sure. Anita Diamante. No, that's someone else. I feel like the Red tent for me was one of the first books that really made me think about female relationships and about the power of women, and that's just a book that I think everyone should read. And it's a biblical story. Oh, it is indeed a diamond. So yeah. And that. Yeah. That's so good. go first. Tell me a thriller that you feel like is pretty unknown and underrated. Okay, I wrote down two that I think people don't talk about. One is The Change by Kristin Miller. It is so funny. It is so fun. It has that paranormal thing in it, but it's not paranormal. It's more like magic. It's so funny. It's about menopausal women channeling their energy from menopause into like, useful things. But it's also got this thriller aspect that I won't tell you, but I think is topical and interesting for lots of people. So the change and I laughed out loud. The first like ten pages, I started laughing and I was like, oh, I love a book that can make me laugh out loud. That's a thriller. And then the second one. It's a little bit older, but I just feel like people didn't give it the love it deserved. And maybe not everyone loved it as much as I did, but it's the Sanitorium by Sarah Pierce. Guess what? It's a snowy setting, but I think her setting was really incredible. I think the story was super engaging the whole time. I thought it was so fun. I also, I also felt like for a snowy people stuck in a cabin book, the character development was good, like there were people I was rooting for and people I was not in that book. I said, this will not surprise you. I feel like everyone's heard my answers all the time, but good night, beautiful by Amy Malloy. Yes, I think it is. I don't hear enough people talk about it. It's a short read. It's a quick read, but it will absolutely blow your mind. The twists and the turns are I don't I can't say anything else. Just think that there's a psychologist and someone can hear him through the floor doing his sessions. And then I'm just going to tell you to go from there, because anything else I say will give it away. Okay. Fun, I love that. Okay. Should we do number eight? Sure. Authors. You'll never skip their books. There are too many. Same. I was like, there's like 20. Because anytime I hear about a new book coming out by someone, I'm like, oh, I'm going to read that by a lot of authors. So I picked three that I think I just really, really need to read all of their everything they've written. And I, I'm going through a lot of it, but okay. My three are Lisa Jewell I just love her books. Lucinda Berry and ah tour. They are tours. Yes. I've really enjoyed books by by all of those by her. She's she's phenomenal. But all three of those. So what who did you pick? My first was the easiest pick I've ever made. And that was Stacey Willingham. Yeah she her debut was in 2022. So flicker in the dark. All the dangerous things. And only if you're lucky I'm like, those are all bangers. Those are like. And they're so different. But such incredible books. And she has a new book coming out, I think. August 2025. I yes, I'm excited for her, I, I will you're right. I mean I'll read anything by her too. Of course I the next two I had lived Constantine because when we had the sisters on I thought, I will read whatever you write just to talk to the two of you again. And the like. Obviously, if you've read The last Mrs. Parrish, that that book is outstanding. And then Senator's Wife was just a fun kind of thriller set in Washington, DC with all the, like, hobnobs. I loved that book so much. And then the last was an author we talked to last week, and that's Heather Goodenough, because I haven't read anything by her that I did not love. And she she manages to bring in a little bit of not gore, but she's a little bit harder in explaining some of the violence happening. And she does it in such a tasteful, meaningful way that it just works. So her books have some, like, pretty scary stuff, but it just goes because she's so good. I love her too. Yeah, and she's respectful, right? We got to hear about how she researched so much for her last book and any author. I think that takes so much time to be respectful of the characters that they're writing about. And the subject matter. I just have a lot of respect for her, I do too. This is the hard thing about being in a position, is we've talked to so many authors that I have. I have such a long list of authors that I respect and care about. It's it's crazy, just that I want to read their work because I care about their craft and what they're doing, and I think it's powerful and I love reading them. Okay. Number eight, I mean number nine. Number nine. What book controversies do you know about Ashley? So I'm going to say an author of a book that is controversial. The book is verity. The author is calling Hoover. Correct. Proud of her. Yeah, I've heard of her. You cannot you cannot say, Verity, without people either completely being on your side and obsessed, or people telling you that it's the worst book they've ever read in the history of books. I know it's really interesting how polarizing that book is. I just I wish I cared more, I wish I did too, but I just don't. I like the book. It was entertaining. I mean, I thought that it was good. There you go. Check. But people are so obsessed with hating it or loving it. I mean, look, if you look at the reviews, most people loved it. It's like got over a million reviews and it's almost five stars. So the people have spoken, but the people who hate it are loud. Well, and do they really hate the book? Or do they just want to hate something to be different? That's a good question. They may be really did hate the book, but I doubt they hated it any more than they've hated some other thrillers. Like, I've definitely disliked some books before and like I, I just it's the passion for me that's interesting. Okay, that's a good controversy. That's a good one to bring up. Um, I'm going to bring up a controversy and that's freedom. McFadden. All the way. Controversial all the way. I mean, one, there's some allegations of maybe she borrows some storylines from others, but I don't know. There's been nothing definitive out there about that. Um, so that's just one of the reasons I think she's controversial. But then people seem to love or hate her. Here's the thing. Do you like her, Ashley? I think the pace at which she churns out thrillers is insane. And I think when you start with her like The Housemaid, I love that book. I absolutely love that book. But then it kind of loses its, uh, luster after a while. Okay, here's the thing is, I will never skip a Frieda McFadden audiobook. I have found that listening to them, it's just easy. It's one of those, like, they're they're very similar to each other in terms of style. And I love to listen. They're quick listen. They're engaging. So I'll listen to any free McFadden audiobook. And I've listened to a lot of them and I always get them. Here's the thing. I don't understand why all of her women characters are such idiots. She writes every single book there is a phenomenally beautiful. That's how they're described. They're just like the most gorgeous woman. But they're dumb as a box of rocks. Like they are just. They make the worst choices. They're like, I don't know. And then he told me I was stupid in my hair, looked ugly, and I was like, but maybe he didn't mean it like that. I'm like, what? No, no, no woman would do it. Any woman would be like, this date's over by, you know? Yes, absolutely. I don't I think I just took a break from Frieda McFadden books to I read housemaid, and then the housemaid returns or whatever the next one's called. And then I just kind of decided to to move on from that. Once you once you've heard the rumor that potentially some of the content is taken from other people, you kind of can't unhear because you start listening or reading a book and you think, I think I've read this before. That does happen sometimes. But a lot of her books that I've read, I don't know that they came from anywhere else. So I don't know about anything about that controversy. Besides, that's just what I've heard. Okay. Um, other controversial takes. Listen Booktok book, TikTok is apparently like a controversial place. There's all kinds of there's a whole community there that I think we're not a big part of because we're old. Maybe we're a little old. Wasn't there a controversy last year on Book Talk, where people were supposedly paid to for content about books, but never got paid? Do you remember that? Yeah, we were like, we didn't answer that email. Oh, yeah. There was no there was one guy who was trying to we got an email, he was emailing book influencers asking them to do like sexual content, like, like, like you had to be, like, scantily clad and dance with his sexy book and he would pay you. I don't know, it was like $200 or something for your book. And we did it. I'm just kidding. I was like, you did? No. And we didn't even, like, read the whole email before we heard about the controversy. And then we saw the email and we're like, oh, we got one of those. Um, so there's one. There was also one I saw earlier this year that was somebody who's a book talker on TikTok, who apparently was having authors mail them their book and pay them like indie authors, and pale pay them money to do a TikTok on their book. And then they were never doing it. The content they weren't providing the the services or something. So she became some book talker, became very controversial, which for the record, we have a good book talk account, but we have never had an author pay us, right? Nope. Ever. And we don't. We have had authors send us their books, but we make very clear we owe them nothing. If they want to send us their book, that's fine. But we we don't make content about books we don't like, basically. Yeah, that's a standing rule we have. We tell authors if we don't like it, we're not going to use our social media presence to bash you, but we're not going to do a video saying we liked it. We're not going to lie about a book. No. We just we just want to share books. That's what we usually do. Yeah, we'll just share them. Just say we liked this. And then people are like, oh my gosh, thank you. Like you're welcome. That's it. It's also this isn't a controversy, but I always find it fascinating because to you and I and to people who love reading books, these authors are I hate the word celebrities, but we hide them in, really hold them in really high esteem. So when we're like, oh, let's go look at their Instagram and follow them. And they have, you know, 4000 followers, I'm like, why don't you have 2 million followers? You're writing these amazing books. Why are people not paying more attention to you? And authors just work so hard? Well, I think so much of that is that we just don't even think about going to search for them. You know, like if we knew we were, they were on there, we would go follow all of them. But you have to like, be effortful sometimes to go find those people and your algorithm stupid. Once you follow like Blake Lively, that's all you get is like Blake Lively and like A-list stars. And you're like, that's not really what I want. So now we have a good algorithm where we get all the book folks. We do. We have a good book algorithm. Okay. Last question. What else do you need to say about reading? I want to tell people because I think this is important, that when we pick our book of the month, we have not read it in advance. And I don't know many book clubs where the people facilitating the conversations and picking the books do that. But to you and I, it's really important to read it with the people who are a part of our community and experience the book with them. And sometimes we have hits and sometimes we have crazy misses and we talk about it. We go there. I love that we sell our hardcover copies of of our books on the creepy book club.com. And here's the thing. The little known fact Ashley and I get our books from that same stash, so they are shipped to us when they're shipped to you. We do not get them in advance. We do not even look into them very much. We look a lot at reviews now our Patreon members help vote on. We provide like three choices for book of the month and they vote. And that's been so much fun. But I want this to be an authentic book club. This is not an Ashley and Emily recommend this book. It's a let's read this together and see what we all think. And sometimes 20 pages in, we think we have made a grievous mistake. It's rare, but it does happen. I can only think of two two books come to top of mind where the whole book club was like, I, do we trust you anymore? Like we don't, we don't know. They're like, can you please cancel my subscription? No. But then you get a total knockout like the Chris Whitaker one. We just read all the colors of the dark, and then you could have, like, four bad ones in a row, and they think it's all right. Do you remember that one? It's true. We've had so many good ones. And right now we're shipping The Lake of Lost Girls by Katherine Green. That looks really good. I'm excited to get that one. So I need to finish the Jason McCulloch and then that's next and I'm holding her to it. I just finished editing our interview we did with Sara Heikkinen for gone tonight if you a year ago maybe. And at the end of it she goes, uh, when House of glass comes out, I want to come back and talk to you. And that's the book our read with us Patreon members picked. So now we can hold her feet to the fire. Sara, we're coming for you. So excited for that. I, I want to say one more thing about reading, and that is I think you can read with your eyeballs. Or your ear balls? Yes. Or your fingertips if you read Braille. I don't care how you read, but you just use one of your senses to read. So I am not not opposed, or I have no negative thoughts about people who listen to their books and then join our book club. So you should come and join us. Yeah. I think however you take in content that works for you, as long as you can be mad about it or sad about it. With us, that's all that matters. Yeah, we just like your emotions. But also, our book club members do have big feelings about narrators and how they are. I mean, me too can make or break it. Me too. I did listen to one book and it sounded like I won't tell you what author, but it was funny because it reminded me I was like, I think this is what the author is like to like, is the author reading it? But it wasn't the author reading it, but she picked someone of her likeness, and the story was about like maybe 30 year old people or 40 year old people, but it sounded like a 65 year old smoker. Woman was reading it and I was like, this doesn't work. This I couldn't get through the book the whole time. I was just like, so frustrated. So sometimes I have to be like, I'm going to go ahead and pivot and get that with my eyes, that one, or I'm going to put it on two times and just get through it. I know sometimes thought to, okay, actually, this was fun. This was fun. I love, um, talking to our book, our besties, and hearing from them. So comment on any of the questions. Right answer one through ten. Whatever you want. Let us know. We want to hear your answers too. Okay, um, happy reading, you guys. Bye bye. Thanks for listening. For more content, find us on Patreon at the Creepy Book Club. Happy reading!